Wednesday, September 2, 2009

[003]confusing checkpoints, who can in and out...and how??


The school of my son started yesterday,
and my daily job to cook his lunchbox started too.
(the picture above!)

Our jet leg is also finally almost done
and my body is starting to detox something.
My body started draw out the infection and since yesterday evening,
I am fasting. For one or two days.

Oh, Argh told me something about fasting too,
in my last visit. Maybe I can ask once about it...

Anyway, our conversation on the Internet is continuing and this time,
I had so many detailed questions about checkpoints.

Who can go in and out, and how?

I experienced in my 1 day trip to him last week
3 form of checkpoints.

One, there we could not go through , they told me it is only for Palestine people and
I have to go to Jbara checkpoint which is 20 away by car.
Argh told me it is nonsense to go to Jbara, they have a checkpoint in Qualiqilia.
So I get confused.
When the taxi driver, a friend of Argh picked us up and brought to his house,
we drove through a checkpoint, there was really few solders
but no check.
after that, we saw also few Arab Soldiers, but there, also no check.

In the evening, we went back through another checkpoint and there was passport control.

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Daya:
this permission is it often so that the people from the Israeli side are trying to get ( for seminar like this, and for maybe work...)?
or,can also Palestine people try to get permission for them self, from their side?
what kind of reason do you should have to get permission? you get it as a international seminar, I heard, for working?

Argh:
for any thing if you going to Israel with any reason it can be but the Palestinian who is really butting there life in danger situation
because the need to work in Israel since no work here
there is some Arab Israeli smuggle them in there cars by making a special space in the car to hide them there
and to cross the check point only
and the get for that more than 50$ just by crossing them a few meters

and there's other way is by using other IDs for Arab Israeli people to cross the check point in the night
so wont really look in the car since the soldiers are tired to check them all
and to make sure of them so if the get caught the will be in jail for a while of time of there life


Daya:
I heard, you could not go to the wedding from our friend O&I... you did not get the permission?
How it is, if you want visit a Arab Israeli friend?

Arg:
yes that other situation i did wont to go to there weeding
so the story was is that i did have the invitation from them so i start to apply for a permit
which the have special application for it here
and after that the ask for the ID of my friend who is inviting me to make shore its not fake one
so i did call him

and he email to me after that the told you get refuse
and the said your friend should make it for you which is a way to let me go
so i did call my Friend
and he cant do it
so i did try again and again
and final answer was
only for relevant from the first degree likes a brother o sister or father or mother
and that the only case's we allow it so good luck next time and that was the end of the story



Daya:
How did you get the permission for the Intensive? I guess, you are going more often to outside from Palestine compare to the others?

Argh:
oh the intensive was BIG DRAMA
first i have to apply to an student visa to the U.S.A which is not easy at all
so i have to apply on line
and to have date with the embassy in Jerusalem for the interview
which usual for all of us as i think
so i got only after 3 weeks a date in that time
but now after many complain the make it in 2 week

so i have a Friend in the state who is the big help for me to get the visa by sending me the I20
and the affidavit of support to show that he is responsible of while i am gone be there
so make it to me and every thing went well
which is i a lucky for have him as a friend for me
because without him i wont grant it at all
and the funny thing in the day most of the people where coming to apply all of them in my line
the get refused except me

Daya:
You don't need some permission to go through West Bank, but you have to go through checkpoints?

Argh:
that was in the beginning of the intifada
the wont let go from city to city like from Qalqilia to Nablus
its only 27KM and we have like 4 checkpoint
and if you don't have the permit the wont let you cross
so most of us he really need to cross we used to go through off road's
and some time the off road was too off road for cars
so used to walk
and if some people get tired their was a donkey's and horses for carrying stuff and people

Daya:
What will happen, or which way you will take to come to Nazareh, if they can make it to get permission for you?

Argh:
if i get the permission to go to Nazareth
i think i will go cross from the check point where you did in your way coming here
and find taxi to go there that's the easiest thing to do ;-)

Daya:
And is it not so dangerous, curious about you if you are going so often in and out?
In Israel pass control, they asked me why I am coming so often and now, in August was my second time after few month, so it was much more often . And I am scared that they become critic with my if I want come in November too.....

Argh:
no not really i am not the only one coming in and out specially to Israel its only happen once a year but you some time
the wonder how i get the permit so double check me and the check it in computer
to make sure its not a fake permit
and the keep asking lot of questions about it like for what and how and what is the thing you doing there etc.

Daya:
sorry for bombing with question but few more:
what was this checkpoint what I came in to Qualqilia, without any check, and the taxi driver was with Israel number? they can come in and out?


Argh:
it called ALFEH MANASHEH check point
it have the name of the Gas station next to it
that's what we call
i don't know what the called officially in Israel,
so just before you come in one month the did remove a few checkpoint from the west bank so the make it easier for us to travel around
so since that time the allow to the Arab Israeli to enter the city without permit and you did noticed that


Daya:
Israeli friends are saying it is not allowed to go to Palestine, the Israeli people
but you show me a lot of Israeli cars was there in Qualqilia. SO, what is the situation right now ?

Argh:
its safe now but the Israeli still scared t do that
or i would say the have this kind of phobia from getting there
and i think the have right to be worried specially what happen during this Intifada
but its totally different know

(that's was breath taking writing )

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I was "bombing" with questions!!
I apologized but he told me

"no no no that's right how the other will no if you didn't ask".

I really appreciate this friendship and connection with Argh,
and I have now much more clear understanding and
the image inside me , the picture is now much more in detailed form.

Relationships, is so powerful.

If I do not have a good friendship with D,
a Jewish Israel friend met in Portland,
and if I do not have Gary Reiss as one of my main teacher
who I feel getting very much learning and influences in my work and in my life,
I did not went to this world work seminar.

If I do not have a good relationship with Argh,
I did not had that idea to do such a project with him.

If I did not have all the friendship in Israel,
I will not have the motivation to come back again and again to this country.

Relationships are so amazing.
Friendships are so powerful.

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